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You can get what's called a design patent.  It's relatively inexpensive and anyone can really do it.  "A US design patent covers the ornamental design for an object having practical utility."  That's from Wikipedia. 

Just because someone invented and patented a lamp, doesn't mean you can't patent your own design of a lamp. 

One problem in proctecting your idea/ design etc..

a varation in design/ approach methodology  of 20-30% & you can apply with a good chance on that design getting protection.

lotta gray zone to work on.

Steve

I have a design patent pending for the solfege tank drum that is my idea.  I would never claim to invent the hank drum/tank drum but using it for educational purposes with music theory applications was my idea.  That is what I am protecting. 

Tina - That is just plain silly.  Good luck with that.  You are not the first by a long shot.  Don't forget the inventor Dennis Havlena has used all of his instruments, including his hank drums, in exactly the same educational setting which you describe for many years.  Such a patent would put a strangle hold on the ability of teachers to enlighten students.  Can you think of none, other than yourself?

At best, about the only thing one could hope to control at this point in time is an artistic copyright.  That is, for the use of your particular aesthetic  design.

Don't forget Rock Creek.  Teaching is their whole foundation.

Dear RP Watson....You are the one that seems to be just plain silly.  In your last statement - At best, about the only thing ...... - This is exactly what I am protecting with my patent - my particular aesthetic design which is the solfege labels with the ladybug design - Maybe instead of getting so excited about telling someone off you should actually read what they are stating.  

My patent on my design for the drum doesn't prevent anyone from creating one just like it or using it as they wish.  Someone could change it in a small way and avoid the patent infringement....all of these things I have considered.  I am only trying to protect my creative and artistic design so that someone else doesn't profit from using my design. 

It would not prevent anyone from using the tank drum for educational purposes and put a stranglehold on anything....a bit dramatic are we?  You are rude and abrasive and shame on you for commenting to someone that is part of the same community loving the tank drum in all it's endeavors.  I applaud every variation and improvement that I see in the field....never thinking to attack anyone with a condescending tone as you have done. 

You don't know me but feel quite justified in making statements about who I care about?  The direction I have taken my design of the drum is after working with several autistic families that are benefiting from using their tank drums...there is no selfish intention in any of this.

Sorry if I offended you Tina.  Your English seemed pretty clear in your previous post. You wrote  [and these are my italics] , "I would never claim to invent the hank drum/tank drum but using it for educational purposes with music theory applications was my idea."

Thanks for the clarification.

Hello folks you all are too late.

I have just get a world patent about production of music with metal vibrations, i feel i will soon be rich enough to buy european AAA.

So sad to read this conversation!

Jean Marc

Collaborative mode would permit to get the planet as a green garden with nobody starving. Egotic concurrencial mode is driving us to a cruel ending. So sad that cool musical hobby resolve in a patent conflict.

Remember that monsanto wanted to patent human génome..... that's the absolute stupidity where this world goes whith concurrency mode. 

Occupy wall street.

Jean Marc,

There is no patent conflict.  I am pretty sure that Tina has (and correct me if this is wrong Tina) restated her position and wants to patent only her artistic design.  Perhaps it would be more accurate to say "copyright" the image and name of her hank drum.

Also, I enjoy your satire and commentary on the human experience.

Hey RP. You should become a diplomat, whe need them today.... But.

I never mind Tina when writting, i know nothing about her. I a m sure that his way to think things like patending a common wealth is not the sign of a "bad person", i am sure that, most of américan people like most of "modern russian" and like... french socialists ... is born in the idea of conurrence like the ONLY motor of common and personnal developpement. 

This is why i make my best to write english an communicate lioke this.

Wall street and notation agency, with the usefull help of corrupted functionairs and, with the help of "my" président.... are creating conditions for a new, strong war in europa. Only becaus of this idea "compétition is the best, market the only way, patending... the thing to do.

I am really happy about one thing: astronomy comunity is a real community, i am conected with real genius, creatives guys, who give to the common absolutely evrything they discover.

Actaully i dont craft tanks, i a making a100%  home made 250mm dobsonian telescope. Idd do

I did nt kow nothing about astronomy 6 monthes ago. Just get it writting posts  on the web with a collaborative group. I had the chance, in return, to give one or two ideas to the group, it's something like (no) money back for all. These ideas where born buildin model planes or.... tanks drum. Survey the patents, they quickly travel the world and hobbies!

Be happy man , you seem to be sane.

Jean Marc.

awesome.

Free the Hank-drum ! (and all it's derivates, in any form, color, shape, tone, etc..)

When/if I want to make a lesson using a 'solfege' (pretty general term) hank-design for my kids, I will never-ever pay you a dime dear Miss 'Tina Robs'!

You speak about protection .. well I want to protect the universal right of building/using hankdrums like/when/how/where-ever anybody wants too!

The application you have found, to work with authistic persons, is honorable, and for me would be enough to make me feel good.
I would, tell anyone to do the same and use my principle of 'solfege-hank' lessons freely, for the good of the people you speak about, not for my own pocket!  .. but then again, you are not me.

Ned
  

Ned: you are a dangerous collectivist!

but i am ok

FREE THE HANK DRUM

make water, food,  energy, health,  education and... tank drums, a world regulated common good, no market, no wall street for human" first necessities" (excuse my english... but you will understand i hope!).

Miss Tina: i won't pay an euro cent if someday i copy your thing. 

Now whe are two of them!

 JM

I AGREE!!!

         F R E E

     T he  Hank Drum

just Supposing TINA gets a patent :-(

 it is unenforcable in the main. as it COSTs money to chase down all the miscreants around the world.

I WON'T PAY

.. where would we be if we had to re-invent the wheel over and over again because some 'smart' individual wants to benefit of the way of using an invention done by others ..

.. what irritates me more, is when you put some 'social' value in the statement, by telling you're using it for autistic people, and at the same time you're preventing others with the same noble intention to do the same elsewhere .. I hope it's just because you didn't think about it, because you're far from being the only one working with people suffering from a handicap .. it's not selfish but it's just incredibly egocentric .

Jean-Marc: Thanks, you're not too bad yourself, respect! ;-)